Miss ChanYesterday 6:47 PM ( ed)
God is very real, but I would not spread this kind of chain post. o-o
Miss ParkerYesterday 6:47 PM
Chain *post. I know.
Miss LeungYesterday 9:32 PM
Has God done you a favor yet? *raises eyebrows *
Miss ChanYesterday 9:38 PM
you do realize it’s a blessing to be alive everyday.. I don’t take these things for granted.
Miss LeungYesterday 9:46 PM
I am thankful that I’m alive, and I understand I’m extremely lucky to be living in the 21st century, in a first world country, when lots of people have it much worse. But I don’t really think it’s God that gives us those things.
Miss ParkerYesterday 9:46 PM
In fact, yes. A madman has not entered my house and start to shoot. I am still alive, my mom has not yelled at me, I am here with my computer happily contented, I had icecream, I played with my little sister who is nice to me, I look outside and it is full of greenery and nature and fresh air. Little favors by God instead of…..nothing.
Miss ParkerYesterday 9:53 PM
Well, read Genesis chapter one. If you don’t believe it, too bad so sad, you are on your own in this world. I don’t get atheists. You can get comfort and love and everything…by grace of God. And if you look closely in the Bible, it is in fact quite historically accurate, considering that these “stories” were in different languages and places and written by different people that never met each other. You atheists just shun out the entire thing, because of a few technical blips. Well, fine, but you miss out on another amazing place of…how to describe it? Amazing things.
Miss LeungYesterday 9:55 PM
Miss ParkerYesterday 9:58 PM
Do they believe in Christ? Those that are, are being helped by others around the world. God specifically created those that are suffering so that others can help them, and we can bond. Going through hard times together makes the world into one better than having them all equally the same and independant.
Miss LeungYesterday 10:03 PM
*chews popcorn thoughtfully *
We aren’t technically going through hard times together. Third world countries are bleeding to death on the sidewalk while the rich laugh and eat off of gold platters. There are a few good organizations in the world trying to help, but by and large… Human nature cannot be helped.
Also, in response to “most of the Bible is histroically accurate,” you are sort of correct. See, most of the people in the Bible actually existed in real life. But they probably didn’t actually perform miracles and stuff. You could call it “historical fiction.”
Miss ParkerYesterday 10:15 PM
Ok, first of all, Most of you guys aren’t Christian. Most of the rich guys aren’t Christian. And its our fault that we aren’t helping each other out. God wanted us to care for each other, but we aren’t doing that. So that doesn’t prove that God doesn’t exist, but that we are mean cruel people who fall short.
Miss ParkerYesterday 10:17 PM
And also, how do you know that they didn’t perform miracles. If you can’t prove that God is alive (which he is) you just cant automatically assume that its not possible. Until you prove that God is not powerful enough to perform miracles, we cannot say that miracles are impossible.
Miss LeungYesterday 10:55 PM ( ed)
By your logic, +Miss Parker , unicorns exist because you can’t prove they don’t. So first I’d like you to prove that God is indeed powerful enought to perform miracles, then we’ll see. Also, it sounds like God is discriminatory based on religion. And for your “we are simply terrible people”, seems like God’s plan didn’t work, eh?
Grammar NaziYesterday 10:46 PM
BOTH OF YOUR SPELLING MISTAKES ARE DRIVING ME CRAZY.
Miss LeungYesterday 10:55 PM
SHUT UP AND HELP ME
Grammar NaziYesterday 10:58 PM
but maybe even if God isn’t real, we convince ourselves he is so it helps us deal with the fact that we are all just bags of meat with no real impact on the universe sitting on a small piece of rock and that one day, we will die, and the sands of time will wash away all memories of our existence. and no one will ever know. because they’re dead.
Miss Chan2:50 PM
God is not discriminatory based on religion. He loves us all. And about suffering..what you have to understand is that in a crude sense, suffering is something that we make..
We define what we call “good” (world peace, etc.) but the reality is that our world is full of suffering, disease, etc. When “bad” things happen, we are disappointed because of our way of thinking. Suffering is not created by God.
Miss Leung3:13 PM
If God exists, and he is all-powerful, why doesn’t he lift a finger and save us all from suffering? and also, Julia stated that a reason for suffering was disbelief in God, so technically is is discriminatory based on religiion. Also, God seems to enjoy kiling people in the Bible, so maybe he exists but is just a pyschopath who enjoys suffering.
Miss Hou3:50 PM
there technically is some minimal proof that god truly exists. the big bang was actually proposed by the church because they knew that no matter what, science cannot prove that there was an explanation/beginning to the big bang. its not yet proven possible that you can make matter out of… nothing. so, therefore, the church can say that god created the big bang, and science has nothing to oppose, because we arent there… yet. +david h i love dan brown… the Illuminati are so awesome
Miss Chan6:40 PM
The church did not propose the Big Bang, scientists did. The Big Bang is called the Standard Model in Physics nowadays, which is based on the general theory of relativity and the quantum field theory. Both have been proven and applied in our daily life. The Big Bang is further supported by cosmologic observations (redshift and cosmic microwave background radiation) and the scientists who discovered these received Nobel Prizes. It is proven that matter is made out of energy (E=mc^2). What is the source of energy? This needs to be coming from an unconditional and supreme being (i.e., God) or you can call it the First Cause.
Miss Chan6:40 PM
God is not the cause of bad; bad is caused by people without absolute standards.
Miss Hou6:51 PM
hey, absolute standards are included in some religions, if not most. and godammit i hate this subject. god should give us unicorns and he should ride a bearodacturtle into the upside-down rainbow ingress then he should give his worshipper answers to everything they need then he should slap all the dumbfounded scientists while i derp on my unicorn and read dan brown scifi books until religious freaks come burn my house down with my combustible lemons that i harvest thanks to science and god and my bunny poop fertilizer and when i blow up i will find that i actually woke up and instead of a human i was god and i just derped with things in another dimension like unicorns and drunk science gives you turtles that blow up
Grammar Nazi7:08 PM
i think you mean mine turtles
Miss Leung7:33 PM
Tto “humans cause bad” then why doesn’t God just solve that all for us, erase the bad? He’s supposed to be all-powerful. So now’s he’s either not all-powerful, meaning he’s not “God”, in the sense that we know him, or he’s a sociopath who likes watching us suffer.
Also “the source of energy must be coming from God” NO. OK, how did you get that? Energy has no “source”, there is a set amount of energy/matter in the universe, and there will always be that amount of energy. Also, to the First Cause argument, if God was the First Cause, then what caused God? And please don’t say he caused himself because that’s logically impossible.
Miss Leung7:37 PM
Also, Emma, there have been multiple theroies put foward by science that explain the Big Bang. The string theory, M-theory, all propose explanations, though one has not been universally accepted yet. But it is illogical to say God caused it, because then what caused God? (refer to First Cause counterargument again)
Miss Leung7:54 PM
Where did I say that you can make matter out of nothing?
Miss Chan8:05 PM
Scientists are hoping to hypothesize one unified theory to explain the four fundamental forces, three have been done but gravity is the last one. The string theory, M theory, and others are all potential candidates, but every single one is built on top of the Big Bang. But these theories are not relevant to the existence of God no matter scientists are successful or not. They are trying to understand HOW the universe is created but we are talking about WHO. The universe is proven to have a starting point, it is not an eternal steady state, so where is “a set of amount of energy/matter” coming from? By definition, the First Cause has no cause, it’s just the logic 🙂
God can definitely stop all bad, but then people will lose their “freedom”. God love all of us so He granted us freedom. Love and freedom must go hand in hand. But people can abuse the freedom to commit bad. What’s the difference between human beings and robots? Freewill! Without freewill, human beings are just robots, then what’s the point to discuss love. God does not stop all bad as He has a better solution. Ultimately, it is a matter of faith – “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” No further comments 🙂
Miss Hou8:05 PM
im so tired of reading all of this
Miss Hou8:08 PM
and when was this how vs who
its stupid to even think a semihuman being like even your god created everything you see and dont.
THERES AN ANSWER BEHIND EVERY CAUSE ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO NOT HAVE ONE MAKING THIS DISCUSSION A PARADOX WHICH IS WHY SCIENTISTS NOR THE CHURCH HAS THE ANSWER
Miss Hou8:09 PM
+Miss Chan +Miss Leung permission to blog this?
No permission, unless +Miss Chan and +Miss Leung both are OK, and since this is my post, what I say goes.
And how is it stupid? Scientists find how, that’s great. It seems legit. Religion finds who. It seems legit. Boom.
Miss Chan- completely agreed. If God forces you all to be good and sets everything right in the first place, is that true love?
Also, I think you misunderstood my “dont believe in God” comment. What I meant to say is that since they don’t act according to God’s will, and don’t know his love and grace, they act randomly and sinfully which leads to chaos and more sin and suffering for others. End of discussion, I’m going to block any more comments if one of you adds one more comment.